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Camquin ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Jun 2007 Location: Cambridge Status: Offline Points: 12017 |
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I keep thinking it is three down with one saved. But of course it is only two down. So ignore my last post.
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JZSmith ![]() British and Irish Lion ![]() Joined: 27 Aug 2024 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 254 |
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Still plenty of time for the RFU to change that!
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Sid James ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Location: East Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1676 |
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Macclesfield should have been in N2N last season, as Chester should have previously.
This would solve their travel costs and give all of the N2N Clubs another home fixture = another pay day and, use up one of the many/unnecessary 'free weekends'. I said this to Beaumont at our recent meeting and he agreed that moving Cheshire Clubs west is nonsense. They should simply promote the next best L5 Club in the south/west areas. The trouble is, this would spoil the spreadsheet at HQ.
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All Knwoing All Seeing
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Red over White ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Otley Joined: 22 May 2007 Location: Baildon Status: Offline Points: 342 |
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From the NCA
Currently at level 4 relegation wise means that Worthing, Devonport Services and Hull are down. For thirteenth place the contenders are Colchester (33 points), Bournville (35) or Billingham (46), so it looks as though Billingham could survive the drop. In National 2 North SKiwifruithorpe, Rossendale and Darlington Mowden Park are the 'newbies', whilst Leeds Tykes and Hull will leave. Another club will also have to leave, contenders are Chester (again) and Lymm
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Thatbloke ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 02 Sep 2017 Location: Newport Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
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Colchester & Bournville are already down. Whoever finishes 13th in the North will be spared. Currently Billingham but equally could be Hull, Harrogate or Preston Grasshoppers with whoever finishes bottom going down
Simples!
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Sid James ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jun 2013 Location: East Yorkshire Status: Offline Points: 1676 |
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S-c-u-n-thorpe may go 'East'. (sorry about the spelling, only way around our mad censoring)
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All Knwoing All Seeing
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backrowb ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 07 Nov 2013 Location: Gods own county Status: Offline Points: 1685 |
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I feel so sorry for clubs that are promoted and thrown into a league that is at the other end of the country
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Thatbloke ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 02 Sep 2017 Location: Newport Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
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Can't see any way on earth Scunny would go East. There looks like definitely3, maybe 4 Leicestershire clubs who would head that way before Scunny
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islander ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 17 Mar 2010 Location: jersey Status: Offline Points: 7872 |
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Really? I'm not saying you're wrong, but looks a bit weird - in N2E they'd have several return journeys of 400+ miles, with Havant (476) as potentially the longest. And a 'local derby' against Bury St Eds (256 miles return) as their closest away game...
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Thatbloke ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 02 Sep 2017 Location: Newport Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
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John Inverdale's response at the Stafford roadshow (and presumably others?) when questioned about the geographical nightmare that is Level 4 was "If you can't afford the travel don't get promoted" Patronising beyond belief! Try selling that message to DoR's, Coaches and players.
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Pr10r ![]() First XV squad ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 2017 Location: Luctonians Status: Offline Points: 39 |
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My
very uneducated guess would be: ·
Scunny into North league ·
Chester or Lymm
level transfer to West to join Macclesfield ·
If Lions are
relegated = Syston goes East ·
If Esher
relegated = Syston stay West |
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In Victory, you deserve Champagne. In defeat, you need it
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WILD BOAR 1 ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 26 Dec 2023 Location: GLOUCESTER Status: Offline Points: 89 |
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I think that's a pretty good guess Pr10r.
My argument is that the travelling in N2W/M!!, is already excessive. If Henley & Oxford Harlequins were moved back W, they could be replaced with LL/Syston/Macc/Chester or Lymm (based on least mileage), thus giving a better balance of travel over the 3 leagues. |
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Halliford ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Feb 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4309 |
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The problem is the mileage basis. Back in the day, I argued for the 3 Leagues to be M1, M5 and M62 based. My thought was to reduce the amount of cross-England travel. Didn't get anywhere!
I do recall a season in Nat 1 when our Christmas "derby" match was Away to Plymouth. That took a bit of coping with on the weekend before Christmas! Just the 400 mile round trip on the last shopping Saturday!
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workerbee ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 May 2009 Location: Wirral Status: Offline Points: 943 |
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Usually a club level transferred out of their normal Area would be exempt from going their again unless they volunteer. So Macclesfield and Chester should avoid being forcibly mover into Level 2 West and the next in line would be Lymm.
Again any decision would mean that the effective line between North and South West leagues is somewhere along the M62 Not sure where Sheffield would fit into this as an option.
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Thatbloke ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 02 Sep 2017 Location: Newport Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
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These rules were changed when the leagues were restructured almost 3 seasons ago now. The term "level transferred" no longer exists. The RFU basically chuck in all the postcodes at each level and you go where you're sent.
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Stalwart* ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 2024 Location: Penzance Status: Offline Points: 108 |
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Slightly off topic, but kind of the same thing. Which are the closest, and furthest away "local" derbies?
Cornish Pirates nearest opponent is Hartpury - 228 miles. |
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oneagainstthehead ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Feb 2015 Location: West London Status: Offline Points: 739 |
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London Scottish is 6.3 miles from Ealing Trailfinders, so probably the closest this season. Next season, of course, the shortest trip will be 0 miles due to Scottish and Richmond ground sharing.
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Speak softly, but carry a big stick.
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Oldman1 ![]() First XV regular ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 80 |
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If I remember correctly North Walsham and Redruth were in the South league at the same time some years back. Some 400 miles!
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GJ 3 ![]() Mini and Juniors ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 2025 Location: East Anglia Status: Offline Points: 4 |
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Would not Hinkley be closer than Syston to the East...?
PS In terms of long journeys...the N2E has Guernsey to travel to!
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Thatbloke ![]() World Cup Winner ![]() Joined: 02 Sep 2017 Location: Newport Status: Offline Points: 1835 |
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Toss up between Hinckley & Leicester Lions (if they come down) as to which might have to go East or South as everyone else calls it but that will leave West short - watch out Chester, Lymm
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