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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Camquin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 10:51
I keep thinking it is three down with one saved.
But of course it is only two down.

So ignore my last post.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote JZSmith Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 10:59
Originally posted by Camquin Camquin wrote:

I keep thinking it is three down with one saved.
But of course it is only two down.

So ignore my last post.

Still plenty of time for the RFU to change that!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 12:18
Macclesfield should have been in N2N last season, as Chester should have previously.
This would solve their travel costs and give all of the N2N Clubs another home fixture = another pay day and, use up one of the many/unnecessary 'free weekends'.
I said this to Beaumont at our recent meeting and he agreed that moving Cheshire Clubs west is nonsense. They should simply promote the next best L5 Club in the south/west areas.
The trouble is, this would spoil the spreadsheet at HQ.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Red over White Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 17:30
From the NCA
  • Clubs finishing in 14th and 13th positions in N1 relegated to N2
  • Winners of three N2 leagues promoted to N1
  • Clubs in 14th place in the three N2 league will be relegated to the Regional Leagues
  • The playing records of the clubs finishing in 13th position in the three N2 leagues will be compared. The one with the best playing record will remain in N2 and the other two relegated to the Regional Leagues
  • The winners of the six Regional Leagues will be promoted to N2
Currently at level 4 relegation wise means that Worthing, Devonport Services and Hull are down. For thirteenth place the contenders are Colchester (33 points), Bournville (35) or Billingham (46), so it looks as though Billingham could survive the drop.

In National 2 North SKiwifruithorpe, Rossendale and Darlington Mowden Park are the 'newbies', whilst Leeds Tykes and Hull will leave. Another club will also have to leave, contenders are Chester (again) and Lymm


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Apr 2025 at 18:45
Colchester & Bournville are already down. Whoever finishes 13th in the North will be spared. Currently Billingham but equally could be Hull, Harrogate or Preston Grasshoppers with whoever finishes bottom going down
Simples! 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Sid James Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 08:32
Originally posted by Red over White Red over White wrote:

From the NCA
  • Clubs finishing in 14th and 13th positions in N1 relegated to N2
  • Winners of three N2 leagues promoted to N1
  • Clubs in 14th place in the three N2 league will be relegated to the Regional Leagues
  • The playing records of the clubs finishing in 13th position in the three N2 leagues will be compared. The one with the best playing record will remain in N2 and the other two relegated to the Regional Leagues
  • The winners of the six Regional Leagues will be promoted to N2
Currently at level 4 relegation wise means that Worthing, Devonport Services and Hull are down. For thirteenth place the contenders are Colchester (33 points), Bournville (35) or Billingham (46), so it looks as though Billingham could survive the drop.

In National 2 North SKiwifruithorpe, Rossendale and Darlington Mowden Park are the 'newbies', whilst Leeds Tykes and Hull will leave. Another club will also have to leave, contenders are Chester (again) and Lymm

S-c-u-n-thorpe may go 'East'. (sorry about the spelling, only way around our mad censoring)
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I feel so sorry for clubs that are promoted and thrown into a league that is at the other end of the country 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 09:38
Can't see any way on earth Scunny would go East. There looks like definitely3, maybe 4 Leicestershire clubs who would head that way before Scunny
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Originally posted by Sid James Sid James wrote:


S-c-u-n-thorpe may go 'East'. (sorry about the spelling, only way around our mad censoring)

Really? I'm not saying you're wrong, but looks a bit weird - in N2E they'd have several return journeys of 400+ miles, with Havant (476) as potentially the longest. And a 'local derby' against Bury St Eds (256 miles return) as their closest away game...


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 09:57
John Inverdale's response at the Stafford roadshow (and presumably others?) when questioned about the geographical nightmare that is Level 4 was "If you can't afford the travel don't get promoted" Patronising beyond belief! Try selling that message to DoR's, Coaches and players. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pr10r Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 10:05

My very uneducated guess would be: 

·         Scunny into North league

·         Chester or Lymm level transfer to West to join Macclesfield

·         If Lions are relegated = Syston goes East

·         If Esher relegated = Syston stay West

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote WILD BOAR 1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 10:29
I think that's a pretty good guess Pr10r.

My argument is that the travelling in N2W/M!!, is already excessive.

If Henley & Oxford Harlequins were moved back W, they could be replaced with LL/Syston/Macc/Chester or Lymm (based on least mileage), thus giving a better balance of travel over the 3 leagues.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Halliford Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 13:48
The problem is the mileage basis. Back in the day, I argued for the 3 Leagues to be M1, M5 and M62 based. My thought was to reduce the amount of cross-England travel. Didn't get anywhere!

I do recall a season in Nat 1 when our Christmas "derby" match was Away to Plymouth. That took a bit of coping with on the weekend before Christmas! Just the 400 mile round trip on the last shopping Saturday!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote workerbee Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 15:01
Usually a club level transferred out of their normal Area would be exempt from going their again unless they volunteer. So Macclesfield and Chester should avoid being forcibly mover into Level 2 West and the next in line would be Lymm. 
Again any decision would mean that the effective line between North and South West leagues is somewhere along the M62 Not sure where Sheffield would fit into this as an option.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 15:32
These rules were changed when the leagues were restructured almost 3 seasons ago now. The term "level transferred" no longer exists. The RFU basically chuck in all the postcodes at each level and you go where you're sent. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Stalwart* Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 16:18
Slightly off topic, but kind of the same thing. Which are the closest, and furthest away "local" derbies?
Cornish Pirates nearest opponent is Hartpury - 228 miles.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote oneagainstthehead Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 16:23
Originally posted by Stalwart* Stalwart* wrote:

Slightly off topic, but kind of the same thing. Which are the closest, and furthest away "local" derbies?
Cornish Pirates nearest opponent is Hartpury - 228 miles.
London Scottish is 6.3 miles from Ealing Trailfinders, so probably the closest this season. Next season, of course, the shortest trip will be 0 miles due to Scottish and Richmond ground sharing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Oldman1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 17:29
If I remember correctly North Walsham and Redruth were in the South league at the same time some years back. Some 400 miles!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GJ 3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 17:30
Would not Hinkley be closer than Syston to the East...?

PS In terms of long journeys...the N2E has Guernsey to travel to!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Thatbloke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Apr 2025 at 18:12
Toss up between Hinckley & Leicester Lions (if they come down) as to which might have to go East or South as everyone else calls it but that will leave West short - watch out Chester, Lymm
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