Week 18
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Topic: Week 18
Posted By: The Blues
Subject: Week 18
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2025 at 16:51
Friday Chinnor v Nottingham
Saturday Hartpury v Ampthill Bedford Blues v London Scottish Caldy v Doncaster Knights Cambridge v Ealing Trailfinders Coventry v Cornish Pirates
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Posted By: Stalwart*
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2025 at 18:02
Friday Chinnor 4 v Nottingham 1
Saturday Hartpury 4 v Ampthill 1 Bedford Blues 5 v London Scottish 0 Caldy 1 v Doncaster Knights 4 Cambridge 0 v Ealing Trailfinders 5 Coventry 5 v Cornish Pirates 1
------------- Pirate
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2025 at 18:09
Friday Chinnor 5-1 Nottingham
Saturday Hartpury 5-1 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-0 London Scottish Caldy 0-5 Doncaster Knights Cambridge 0-5 Ealing Trailfinders Coventry 5-2 Cornish Pirates
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 27 Apr 2025 at 22:14
Chinnor 2-5 Nottingham - could go the other way but Nottingham are a dangerous team in good weather Hartpury 5-1 Ampthill - Hartpury will have enough for Ampthill as they keep the pressure on for 2nd Bedford Blues 5-1 London Scottish - Blues in theory have completed the hardest games, but traditionally have slipped up against the lower teams. I don’t see this happening here, but Scottish to get 4 tries Caldy 0-5 Doncaster Knights - Knights to continue their recent good form Cambridge 0-5 Ealing Trailfinders - Ealing to get back to winning ways with a demolition of Cambridge Coventry 2-5 Cornish Pirates - could go either way but I fancy Pirates to edge this one
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2025 at 00:49
Chinnor 5-1 Nottingham Hartpury 5-1 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-1 London Scottish Caldy 0-5 Doncaster Knights Cambridge 0-5 Ealing Trailfinders Coventry 5-1 Cornish Pirates
------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Posted By: Jezmar
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2025 at 07:44
Friday Chinnor 5 v 1 Nottingham
Saturday Hartpury 5 v 0 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5 v 0 London Scottish Caldy 0 v 5 Doncaster Knights Cambridge 0 v 5 Ealing Trailfinders Coventry 1 v 5 Cornish Pirates
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Posted By: All the Way
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2025 at 08:08
Chinnor 5-1 Nottingham Hartpury 5-2 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-0 London Scottish Caldy 1-5 Doncaster Knights Cambridge 0-5 Ealing Trailfinders Coventry 5-2 Cornish Pirates
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Posted By: Old Gold
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2025 at 10:20
Chinnor 5 - 2 Nottingham Hartpury 5 - 2 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5 - 0 London Scottish Caldy 1 - 5 Doncaster Knights Cambridge 0 - 5 Ealing Trailfinders Coventry 5 - 2 Cornish Pirates
------------- #AClubForLife💛❤️🖤
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Posted By: GednyBlues15
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2025 at 18:38
Chinnor 5-1 Nottingham Hartpury 5-1 Ampthill Blues 5-0 Scottish Caldy 1-5 Donny Cambridge 0-5 Ealing Coventry 5-2 Pirates
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2025 at 18:42
Chinnor 2-5 Nottingham Hartpury 5-1 Ampthill Blues 5-1 Scottish Caldy 4-2 Donny Cambridge 0-5 Ealing Coventry 5-1 Pirates
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2025 at 20:06
Chinnor 4-1Nottingham Hartpury 5-0 Ampthill Blues 5-1 Scottish Caldy 1-4 Donny Cambridge 0-5 Ealing Coventry 5-1 Pirates
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 28 Apr 2025 at 20:10
Chinnor 4-1 Nottingham Hartpury 5-1 Ampthill Blues 5-0 Scottish Caldy 1-5 Donny Cambridge 0-5 Ealing Coventry 5-1 Pirates
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Posted By: castleparknight
Date Posted: 29 Apr 2025 at 20:41
My guesses:
Chinnor 2-5 Nottingham Hartpury 5-1 Ampthill Bedford Blues 5-1 London Scottish Caldy 0-5 Doncaster Knights Cambridge 0-5 Ealing Trailfinders Coventry 5-1 Cornish Pirates
Best of luck
------------- Onward and Upwards C'mon Donny!
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Posted By: greenpower
Date Posted: 01 May 2025 at 16:46
chinnor 4 1 nottingham hartpury 5 1 ampthill bedford 5 0 scottish caldy 1 5 doncaster cambridge 0 5 ealing coventry 5 1 pirates
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Posted By: BigChief
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 10:01
Chinnor 2 - 5 Nottingham Hartpury 5 - 1 Ampthill Bedford 5 - 1 London Scottish Caldy 1 - 5 Doncaster Cambridge 0 - 5 Ealing Coventry 5 - 1 Cornish Pirates
------------- For the ordinary purposes of conversation, a superficial knowledge of many things goes further than an intimacy with one or two.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 13:05
Doncaster Knights team
starting XV | 15, Telusa Veainu. 14, Aidan Cross. 13, Zach Kerr 12, Connor Edwards. 11, Jordan Olowofela. 10, Russell Bennett. 9, Alex Dolly. 1, Conor Davidson. 2, George Roberts. 3, Logovi’i Mulipola. 4, Ben Murphy (C). 5, Adam Hopkinson. 6, Archie Smeaton. 7, Rhys Tait. 8, Morgan Strong.
Replacements | 16, Fred Davies 17, Andrew Turner. 18, Lewis Thiede. 19, Ethan Hulme. 20, Jasper McGuire. 21, Ollie Fox. 22, Morgan Bunting. 23, Obi Ene.
4 props on the bench.
3 players away playing representative rugby, Army, Navy and Barbarians.
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Posted By: gerg_861
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 18:53
Ealing Trailfinders to face Cambridge: okay squad, should get the job done. Good to see cutmore at 4. - Kyle Whyte
- Mike Willemse (c)
- Biyi Alo
- Sean Lonsdale
- Danny Cutmore
- Rob Farrar
- Jordy Reid
- David Bridge
- Michael Stronge
- Dan Jones
- Tom Collins
- Jordan Holgate
- Reuben Bird-Tulloch
- Ben Harris
- Michael Dykes
- Scott Buckley
- Lefty Zigiriadis
- Adam Nicol
- Geordie Irvine
- Ollie Newman
- Craig Hampson
- Craig Willis
- Francis Moore
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Posted By: Donnyknightfan
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 19:34
Chinnor 4 - 1 Nottingham Hartpury 5 - 1 Ampthill Bedford 5 - 1 London Scottish Caldy 0 - 5 Doncaster Cambridge 0 - 5 Ealing Coventry 5 - 1 Cornish Pirates
------------- Donny Knights - best team in Yorkshire
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Posted By: islander
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 20:39
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 20:52
Bedford Blues starting XV: 15. Louis James, 14. Alfie Garside, 13. Lucas Titherington, 12. Michael Le Bourgeois, 11. Dean Adamson, 10. Will Maisey, 9. Alex Day (C); 1. Jamie Jack, 2. James Fish, 3. Beltus Nonleh, 4. Luke Frost, 5. Rory Ward, 6. Fyn Brown, 7. Joe Howard, 8. Fred Tuilagi Bedford Blues Replacements: 16. Tommy Herman, 17. Joey Conway, 18. Oisin Heffernan, 19. Shay Kerry, 20. Archie Benson, 21. James Lennon, 22. Matt Worley, 23. Joel Matavesi Unavailable for selection this week: Jac Arthur, Cameron King, Jamie Elliott, Pat Tapley
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 20:58
Scottish although it looks like Sheppard starts at 10
London Scottish Side to Face Bedford - Ethan Clarke
- Austin Wallis
- Ntinga Mpiko
- Matt Wilkinson
- Harry Browne
- Bailey Ransom (cc)
- Jack Ingall
- Tom Marshall
- Dan Nutton (cc)
- Josh Bellamy
- Roma Zheng
- Will Simonds
- Robbie McCallum
- Jonah Holmes
- Alec Lloyd-Seed
Replacements 16. Calum Scott, 17. George Cave, 18. Ashley Challenger, 19. Alex Wardell, 20. Ioan Rhys Davies, 21. Jonny Law, 22. Harry Sheppard, 23. Tom Wilstead
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 21:06
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 21:13
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 21:17
Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 22:26
Well done Chinnor, you are having a great first season after your promotion from Nat 1 👏
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 10:15
A fantastic second half performance from Chinnor took them to victory over Nottingham last night, helped by three tries when Nottingham were down to 14 players.
Attached is a full report for anyone interested https://fatbearssportingdiaries.blogspot.com/2025/05/chinnor-41-22-nottingham-att-1600-est.html" rel="nofollow - https://fatbearssportingdiaries.blogspot.com/2025/05/chinnor-41-22-nottingham-att-1600-est.html
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Posted By: maire99
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 10:37
We had a mare last night. Just seemed to fall apart in the second half to be honest. But after 15 years of supporting Nottingham I’m used to it…!I think all our injury issues and having to rely heavily on loan players is making our team a bit disjointed too- in some positions we don’t have any fit players of our own and there were a couple on the bench well out of position, who I might add did great.
That said I wasn’t impressed with some of the disparaging remarks from some Chinnor fans in front of me. I know that in the nature of sport there is always going to be some slating of the other team- and I’m not objecting to that at all- but there’s slating and there’s slating and that’s what I’m objecting to. And as a lone female I didn’t appreciate the dirty looks from grown men because I was cheering for my team either, first time I’ve been there and probably going to be the last to be honest.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 13:01
KnightsBoy wrote:
Doncaster Knights team
starting XV | 15, Telusa Veainu. 14, Aidan Cross. 13, Zach Kerr 12, Connor Edwards. 11, Jordan Olowofela. 10, Russell Bennett. 9, Alex Dolly. 1, Conor Davidson. 2, George Roberts. 3, Logovi’i Mulipola. 4, Ben Murphy (C). 5, Adam Hopkinson. 6, Archie Smeaton. 7, Rhys Tait. 8, Morgan Strong.
Replacements | 16, Fred Davies 17, Andrew Turner. 18, Lewis Thiede. 19, Ethan Hulme. 20, Jasper McGuire. 21, Ollie Fox. 22, Morgan Bunting. 23, Obi Ene.
4 props on the bench.
3 players away playing representative rugby, Army, Navy and Barbarians.
| . Late change for Donny, Veainu out, Olowofela moves to 15, Ene starts on the wing, Academy product Will Metcalfe on the bench.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 15:07
7 mins Blues 14-0 Scottish
Blues down slope 1st half
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 15:32
30 mins Blues (BP) 28-10 Scottish
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 15:46
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 15:48
HT Blues 35-10 (2 tries) Scottish
Scottish struggling with the pace of the Blues attack and have scored 2 rolling mauls
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 15:49
Cambridge 0-56 Ealing Hartpury 28-7 Ampthill Coventry 7-14 Pirates
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:09
Blues Dean Adamson gets the all time Blues record with his 146th try I believe.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:10
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:17
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:18
Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:22
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:30
Blues 54-31 Scottish, 13 to go
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:36
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:41
76 mins Blues 61-31 Scottish
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:41
Caldy 15 Donny 33 ft
5pts win for donny
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:45
According to a blues tweet X today 30111 at the game today 🤔 that's massive.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:48
Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:48
KnightsBoy wrote:
According to a blues tweet X today 30111 at the game today 🤔 that's massive. |
Haha! 3011
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 16:53
The Blues wrote:
KnightsBoy wrote:
According to a blues tweet X today 30111 at the game today 🤔 that's massive. |
Haha! 3011 |
Deffo said 30111, typo all day.
3011 is still a great crowd, Donny dream of achieving that again on regular basis
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 17:14
Blues blew a couple of tries and Scottish had a couple fortunate ones, but were value for the bonus point. Blues keep marching on and with 4 games against those in the bottom 5 they should be looking to take 2nd place.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 17:33
The Blues wrote:
Blues blew a couple of tries and Scottish had a couple fortunate ones, but were value for the bonus point. Blues keep marching on and with 4 games against those in the bottom 5 they should be looking to take 2nd place. |
Deserved it, played some good stuff, consistency aswell
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 17:38
As you might have seen, Cam 19 Ealing 89 (feel like a Exeter supporter after playing Gloucester)
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 17:41
FHLH wrote:
As you might have seen, Cam 19 Ealing 89 (feel like a Exeter supporter after playing Gloucester) |
It happens mate, you guys are in the championship on merit, money is massive in rugby, those who can spend big
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 17:50
KnightsBoy wrote:
It happens mate, you guys are in the championship on merit, money is massive in rugby, those who can spend big
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------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."
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Posted By: Noiseyblue
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 19:08
Being behind the posts in the first half I can verify that Blues also had a very fortunate try as Will Maisey was at least a foot short for his try!
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 03 May 2025 at 21:57
Pirates do the double again at Coventry; didn’t expect that to be honest but a great result for us. Lots of compliments from away supporters about the welcome at Coventry. Altogether good news.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 05:53
cheshire exile wrote:
Pirates do the double again at Coventry; didn’t expect that to be honest...
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I did. Did you see how many forwards Cov were missing?
------------- Our City, Our Club
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Posted By: kempstonblue
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 07:51
The Blues wrote:
Blues blew a couple of tries and Scottish had a couple fortunate ones, but were value for the bonus point. Blues keep marching on and with 4 games against those in the bottom 5 they should be looking to take 2nd place. |
IF we can stay 2nd, be a good season. A real shame that I went online, the only printed paper fawning over a football club promoted from tier 7 to 6. Our local radio 📻 just as bad. I hope with the RFU master plan they will improve relationships with local media. I just see this new dawn as another damp squid.
------------- The older I get, the more the RFU leave me confused.
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 08:21
FHLH wrote:
KnightsBoy wrote:
It happens mate, you guys are in the championship on merit, money is massive in rugby, those who can spend big
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Every team in the Championship is there on merit. It took Ealing over a 150 years to get there. Initially they came into this league and went straight back down. We still do not have a ground that qualifies to go any further and as far as I can tell there is no plan and as some *@%$ stated on here "WHY"
------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 09:25
Caldy 15 Donny 33
A tighter game than the final scoreline suggested with Caldy fielding 5 backs 21 or under and a few others who had stepped up from the Caldy second xv. Donny had the edge just. However, but for a somewhat controversial late 14 point swing Caldy could have fairly picked up a losing bonus point. A Caldy breakaway with the line at their mercy was hauled back by a strange interpretation by the assistant referee who in my view wrongly and belatedly signalled for a knock on earlier in the play by the Ravers. Galvanized by the let off Donny scored in the corner to bring up their 5th score but I heard that Donny's own players were somewhat sheepish about the award of the try and acknowledged it hadn't been grounded.
However such are the vicissitudes present in any game it didn't detract from a highly enjoyable and close fought game by two entertaining sides. Hats off to the young players Charlie Hyde, Jacob Mitchell and Dylan Carroll who really stepped up against a top team in Donny.
Caldy made a few too many errors to have won the game but there is no doubt in my mind the Ravers are getting closer to reaching the necessary standard without yet quite translating their improvement into league points.
Although not a point about Championship rugby I am going to also congratulate Caldy's 2nd xv for winning the Halbro League's Primo Drinks Cup with a 27-24 win against Sedgley Park who were heavily reinforced with seven 1st team players including the giant Tom Ailes and Nat 1's top try scorer winger Rhys Henderson. Shorn of some of their best players who were playing against Donny the Caldy 2nd team were real underdogs against a very strong Sedgley xv but somehow against the odds the Caldy youngsters racked up their 125th consecutive win......just extraordinary !!
Hats off to the inspirational coaching team of Andrew Soutar and Christian Jones who have guided and led this home grown squad to this extraordinary achievement.
------------- ''The future isn't what it used to be''
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Posted By: Cov kid 42
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 11:22
No Complaints re Cov v Cornish Pirates result. BUT, Cov missing at least 7 first teams including some significant figures up front, Nairau, Nkwocha, Kvesic, Hinkley & Nayalo on Army duty.
------------- John Butler
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 12:14
Big Eddie wrote:
Caldy 15 Donny 33
A tighter game than the final scoreline suggested with Caldy fielding 5 backs 21 or under and a few others who had stepped up from the Caldy second xv. Donny had the edge just. However, but for a somewhat controversial late 14 point swing Caldy could have fairly picked up a losing bonus point. A Caldy breakaway with the line at their mercy was hauled back by a strange interpretation by the assistant referee who in my view wrongly and belatedly signalled for a knock on earlier in the play by the Ravers. Galvanized by the let off Donny scored in the corner to bring up their 5th score but I heard that Donny's own players were somewhat sheepish about the award of the try and acknowledged it hadn't been grounded.
However such are the vicissitudes present in any game it didn't detract from a highly enjoyable and close fought game by two entertaining sides. Hats off to the young players Charlie Hyde, Jacob Mitchell and Dylan Carroll who really stepped up against a top team in Donny.
Caldy made a few too many errors to have won the game but there is no doubt in my mind the Ravers are getting closer to reaching the necessary standard without yet quite translating their improvement into league points.
Although not a point about Championship rugby I am going to also congratulate Caldy's 2nd xv for winning the Halbro League's Primo Drinks Cup with a 27-24 win against Sedgley Park who were heavily reinforced with seven 1st team players including the giant Tom Ailes and Nat 1's top try scorer winger Rhys Henderson. Shorn of some of their best players who were playing against Donny the Caldy 2nd team were real underdogs against a very strong Sedgley xv but somehow against the odds the Caldy youngsters racked up their 125th consecutive win......just extraordinary !!
Hats off to the inspirational coaching team of Andrew Soutar and Christian Jones who have guided and led this home grown squad to this extraordinary achievement.
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It sounds like Caldy weren't far off getting a bonus point or two. It's always impressive when 2nd team players step up against full time professionals. Was this due to injuries to first team players?
The record you highlight reminds me of Chinnor Wildboys (3rd XV) who went on a similarly long run of wins, incredible. They then moved up through the Counties Leagues to start facing 1 XVs, which brought them to the right level of opposition.
Have Caldy 2nd XV considered that option (if available) to provide the next challenge? Perhaps even the Regional Leagues (L6, 5) although I'm not sure 2nd XVs are permitted in these?
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 13:38
No 7 wrote:
FHLH wrote:
KnightsBoy wrote:
It happens mate, you guys are in the championship on merit, money is massive in rugby, those who can spend big
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Every team in the Championship is there on merit. It took Ealing over a 150 years to get there. Initially they came into this league and went straight back down. We still do not have a ground that qualifies to go any further and as far as I can tell there is no plan and as some *@%$ stated on here "WHY"
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It must feel like a lost decade for Ealing fans, as you have been top 2, 10 times in the last 10 years, of which you have now won it 3 times.
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Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 14:48
Nat1 wrote:
It sounds like Caldy weren't far off getting a bonus point or two. It's always impressive when 2nd team players step up against full time professionals. Was this due to injuries to first team players?
The record you highlight reminds me of Chinnor Wildboys (3rd XV) who went on a similarly long run of wins, incredible. They then moved up through the Counties Leagues to start facing 1 XVs, which brought them to the right level of opposition.
Have Caldy 2nd XV considered that option (if available) to provide the next challenge? Perhaps even the Regional Leagues (L6, 5) although I'm not sure 2nd XVs are permitted in these?
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Nat 1 just answering your questions There were a couple of regular 1st xv players missing for personal reasons, and another two in Connor Wilkinson and Nathan Rushton were playing for the Barbarians. Obviously with four or five out from the regular 1st xv squad the impact trickled down to the 2nd xv. The lads who stepped up from the 2nd xv to face Doncaster all did themselves proud and similarly the young lads that stepped up from the 3rd xv into the 2ndxv for the cup match against Sedgley Park also really performed.
Caldy have dominated the North West Halbro Premier League for the last 5 or 6 years and there has been real consideration and attempts by the club for the squad to go into the RFU leagues but there has been opposition (principally from the Lancashire Clubs) and a requirement to limit their position to level 7 which would be of very little benefit.
The 2nd xvs from Chester, Sedgley Park, Fylde and Preston Grasshoppers tend to provide stiff opposition with some of the other sides like Blackburn and Rossendale pushing hard but often fading away in the later stages. The killer for the lads is the number of late cry offs by other clubs when it comes to 2nd xv league fixtures against Caldy with at least eight this season.
Most if not all of Caldy's 2nd xv would be starting 1st xv players in other local clubs playing at level 5 or level 6 where they would pick up a match fee (there is no match fee for Caldy 2nd xv players) and in the last few seasons I can think of at least a dozen or so Caldy players who have made that switch.
However, most of the current Caldy 2nd xv squad have realistic aspirations to play Championship rugby and this season the Caldy 1st xv squad has used at least 50 players. There is only one senior squad of players who all train and are coached together with Tuesday and Thursday sessions comprising of 50 to 60 such players.
Ambitious young players at Caldy know that if they work hard and show the right attitude and ability they will get their shot. Despite the pressures of Championship rugby Caldy is generally a meritocratic, transparent and enjoyable environment for aspiring young players. There is no greater pleasure than to see :
- a young player progress through the age groups at Caldy and eventually make his debut in the Championship as Dylan Carroll did on Saturday against Doncaster or
- another young local player coming to Caldy, progressing through the 2nd xv to become a regular Championship level player as Matt Kilcourse, Will Robinson, Freddie Stevenson and numerous others have done so during the last couple of seasons or
- a more mature local player arrive at Caldy and significantly improve his rugby through great coaching and an inclusive and enjoyable atmosphere
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 15:37
The Blues wrote:
No 7 wrote:
FHLH wrote:
KnightsBoy wrote:
It happens mate, you guys are in the championship on merit, money is massive in rugby, those who can spend big
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Every team in the Championship is there on merit. It took Ealing over a 150 years to get there. Initially they came into this league and went straight back down. We still do not have a ground that qualifies to go any further and as far as I can tell there is no plan and as some *@%$ stated on here "WHY"
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It must feel like a lost decade for Ealing fans, as you have been top 2, 10 times in the last 10 years, of which you have now won it 3 times. |
Personally being a long term fan I have had no feelings of being ' lost '. The last decade and the one before that I have followed Ealing all over the Country and really enjoyed the gradual climb from London 1. Bedford have been in the Champioship a lot longer and wonder how 'lost' you feel ?. I believe the Blues have been there since 94/ 95.
I must admit I enjoyed National 1 rugby a lot more than the Champioship but Ealing had some long term battles with old established clubs.
------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Posted By: The Blues
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 18:23
Pleased you don’t feel it is lost. I certainly would be frustrated as a fan, if it were Blues in Ealings situation, as well as with the RFU.
I remember when we had 14 in a league and there was both automatic promotion and playoffs, between the divisions which made it exciting and Blues lost out to the Premiership.
Blues have had 2 years in the Premiership but Ealing should have had more (but for the regulations). Also we are both in completely different situations, one club is bankrolled and has some facilities like the indoor training centre (like a premiership club) and could afford to build the stadium. The other is not.
Over 10 years and the overspend on players you would think a stadium could have been built in that timeframe.
Ealing are in a bit of a no man’s land operating in the Championship on a lower end Premiership club budget. It does give us all some satisfaction on the rare occasion when we are able to topple you.
Blues last decade has been one of trying to ensure that we operate at break even without the need of a wealthy backer to ensure we should be here the following season playing good attractive rugby. I would hope now we start to try and build up funds for further ground improvements, although a slow process.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 19:02
Cov kid 42 wrote:
No Complaints re Cov v Cornish Pirates result.BUT, Cov missing at least 7 first teams including some significant figures up front, Nairau, Nkwocha, Kvesic, Hinkley & Nayalo on Army duty. |
Surely seven first-choice forwards, John? Those plus Johnson and T**s. Possibly the worst forwards situation this term, but it's been pretty bad for the whole second half of the season - coinciding with the slip down the table.
------------- Our City, Our Club
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Posted By: No 7
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 19:03
Good luck to Bedford.
------------- Ambition should be made of sterner stuff.
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 21:40
Kimbo wrote:
cheshire exile wrote:
Pirates do the double again at Coventry; didn’t expect that to be honest...
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I did. Did you see how many forwards Cov were missing? |
Not really my priority to be honest. Every club has injuries. Jack Andrew, whose season in Nat 2 West finished last week, rumbled on for the Pirates yesterday. You had a scrum half with extensive Premiership experience. At this stage of the season everyone except Ealing is managing their resources nervously.
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 04 May 2025 at 22:49
Not particularly related, but rumours going round Bedford yesterday that about 75% of our squad have been poached for next season. Not sure how many of those are Worcester, but I’d think a few given I don’t think we have loads of Prem ready players and can’t see any other Champ side poaching our players other than Ealing. A real shame as we’ve built an excellent squad this season, probably the best since we had Karl Dickson and Billy Twelvetrees pulling the strings at half back, and I think if we’d have been able to retain everyone our results over the last few weeks show we might’ve been able to compete right at the top next year. As it is, sounds like it will be a rebuild season. Really thought we might be able to push on because I think the core of our team are now top end Championship players who imo aren’t quite ready (yet) for the step up so will be interesting to see where they all end up.
------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 07:58
cheshire exile wrote:
Kimbo wrote:
cheshire exile wrote:
Pirates do the double again at Coventry; didn’t expect that to be honest...
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I did. Did you see how many forwards Cov were missing? |
Not really my priority to be honest. Every club has injuries. Jack Andrew, whose season in Nat 2 West finished last week, rumbled on for the Pirates yesterday. You had a scrum half with extensive Premiership experience. At this stage of the season everyone except Ealing is managing their resources nervously. |
No, of course it's not. However, the reason you (and several other sides) have done a number on Cov is that seven-eighths of their best pack is missing. Forwards win matches... etc.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 09:33
Yes, but you knew that when you signed them.
Cambridge were missing Mat Dawson at the same game. We were also missing the three Saint loan players who were never going to play in the Semi-final, so I assume only went for the party.
Mind you, even with all four available, and a fit fly half, we would still have been hammered by the best sides ever to have played at Grantchester Road.
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Posted By: KnightsBoy
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 09:33
Donny are having injury problems kimbo, around 8 presently, plus 3 players were on representative duty over the weekend with barbarians, army and navy. Admittedly our injuries are split between backs and forwards. Had 6 props in the match day 23 at Caldy
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Posted By: maire99
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 11:06
Nottingham having similar issues. Neither lock named in the squad for Chinnor is our player (both on loan from Leicester Tigers) as was our number 6, and the second/back row cover was a hooker and a centre!
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 11:58
Do we need, should we have, loan players other than for a complete season? Love, Squadron Leader xx
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Posted By: Big Eddie
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 12:15
FHLH wrote:
Do we need, should we have, loan players other than for a complete season? Love, Squadron Leader xx
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I would very much agree with that
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Posted By: maire99
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 12:29
Hate to disappoint anyone but two of the loan players we fielded in our team are listed on our current squad on the website That would tell me they’re long term loans The other two were likely emergency loans as we have such bad injury problems
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 12:33
I believe that the Tier 2 board were looking to move to that model.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 13:03
Camquin wrote:
Yes, but you knew that when you signed them.
Cambridge were missing Mat Dawson at the same game. We were also missing the three Saint loan players who were never going to play in the Semi-final, so I assume only went for the party.
Mind you, even with all four available, and a fit fly half, we would still have been hammered by the best sides ever to have played at Grantchester Road.
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Knew what? All those forwards are Cov-contracted. Do you mean the club knew they were going to be long-term injured by Christmas, or that one of them would sh*te on the club and be put on 'gardening' leave for the duration. The only one they knew with any certainty wouldn't always be available is Nayalo - who is regularly away on army duties.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 13:04
Big Eddie wrote:
FHLH wrote:
Do we need, should we have, loan players other than for a complete season? Love, Squadron Leader xx
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So would I. One hundred percent.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 13:05
KnightsBoy wrote:
Donny are having injury problems kimbo, around 8 presently, plus 3 players were on representative duty over the weekend with barbarians, army and navy. Admittedly our injuries are split between backs and forwards. Had 6 props in the match day 23 at Caldy
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Oh for six fit props 
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 13:10
I may have misread your post, I thought you had multiple forwards on Army duty. As for injuries and illness, everyone has to cope with those.
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Posted By: tigerburnie
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 13:11
Leicester Lions had players signed on loan for the season who vanished and have been playing for , Championship sides, it happens, can't see a players development stopped because of bit of paper. At the end of the day the academy players are actually signed to their parent club, not the Championship or National league sides. One of the Lions is on loan in Japan.
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Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 13:28
FHLH wrote:
Do we need, should we have, loan players other than for a complete season? Love, Squadron Leader xx
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Players can and do choose to change clubs mid season.
Clubs need short term cover.
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Posted By: L33
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 14:25
Nat1 wrote:
Big Eddie wrote:
Caldy 15 Donny 33
A tighter game than the final scoreline suggested with Caldy fielding 5 backs 21 or under and a few others who had stepped up from the Caldy second xv. Donny had the edge just. However, but for a somewhat controversial late 14 point swing Caldy could have fairly picked up a losing bonus point. A Caldy breakaway with the line at their mercy was hauled back by a strange interpretation by the assistant referee who in my view wrongly and belatedly signalled for a knock on earlier in the play by the Ravers. Galvanized by the let off Donny scored in the corner to bring up their 5th score but I heard that Donny's own players were somewhat sheepish about the award of the try and acknowledged it hadn't been grounded.
However such are the vicissitudes present in any game it didn't detract from a highly enjoyable and close fought game by two entertaining sides. Hats off to the young players Charlie Hyde, Jacob Mitchell and Dylan Carroll who really stepped up against a top team in Donny.
Caldy made a few too many errors to have won the game but there is no doubt in my mind the Ravers are getting closer to reaching the necessary standard without yet quite translating their improvement into league points.
Although not a point about Championship rugby I am going to also congratulate Caldy's 2nd xv for winning the Halbro League's Primo Drinks Cup with a 27-24 win against Sedgley Park who were heavily reinforced with seven 1st team players including the giant Tom Ailes and Nat 1's top try scorer winger Rhys Henderson. Shorn of some of their best players who were playing against Donny the Caldy 2nd team were real underdogs against a very strong Sedgley xv but somehow against the odds the Caldy youngsters racked up their 125th consecutive win......just extraordinary !!
Hats off to the inspirational coaching team of Andrew Soutar and Christian Jones who have guided and led this home grown squad to this extraordinary achievement.
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It sounds like Caldy weren't far off getting a bonus point or two. It's always impressive when 2nd team players step up against full time professionals. Was this due to injuries to first team players?
The record you highlight reminds me of Chinnor Wildboys (3rd XV) who went on a similarly long run of wins, incredible. They then moved up through the Counties Leagues to start facing 1 XVs, which brought them to the right level of opposition.
Have Caldy 2nd XV considered that option (if available) to provide the next challenge? Perhaps even the Regional Leagues (L6, 5) although I'm not sure 2nd XVs are permitted in these?
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Yes it has, the issue you have the league is a Lancashire and Cheshire league.
Cheshire clubs voted in favor of allowing 2xv to play in the league system.
Only 2 Lancashire clubs game forward to vote in favor of allowing 2xv to play in the leagues. It requires 4 teams to have a vote.
The issue is that messages doesn't get to the right people within the club to allow them to make a decision.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 14:43
Some of the smaller clubs thought they would lose their best players to the big clubs if those clubs could enter a second team into the league. The theory would be players would move to play in the second tam, with the hope of getting into the big club's 1st XV. Though if you are playing two leagues down from the 1st XV, you are not going to waltz into it.
I have no idea if there was any such movement in the counties that did permit 2nd XVs into the leagues.
However, since then the powers that be have decided that all players at a club whose first team are in the Championship count as players at a Championship club, so cannot play for the county. Even if they are in the 6thXV.
That has caused several Cambridge 3rd XV players to leave - as it ruled them out of county games.
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Posted By: Thatbloke
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 17:31
Also at present 2nd XV's are not allowed to rise above Level7 which probably wouldn't be a high enough standard for clubs such as Caldy and other senior clubs with very strong 2nd XV's. That rule is supposedly up for review during the close season so it will be interesting to see what happens
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 17:37
Big Eddie, L33. Thank you for your clarification. From an outsider's perspective that looks like a case of Lancs clubs wanting to keep a strong 2nd XV from entering their joint Cheshire/Lancs league for fear of coming up against a side that may very well beat their 1st XV.
To win 125 matches in a row is quite some feat. As a Championship club could Caldy take their 2nd XV to play their corresponding opposition 2nd teams as a precursor to the 1st XV matches each week? This works well at a number of clubs across Nat 1.
I'm unsure if the full time sides in the Champ have 2nd XVs (do they have academies?), but I do know that Chinnor, Cambridge and Ampthill do. It may well be more worthwhile for the up and coming Caldy players to play against stronger sides and may even add another dimension to the Championship. I also know I've gone off topic on this thread, apologies!
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Posted By: fatbear
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 18:24
It shouldn't be too hard to arrange for Caldy 2nds to travel with the firsts to play Chinnor Falcons ( and vice versa ). Chinnor should be able to arrange their Raging Bull Fixtures to have two clear dates to play Caldy, if there is a will !
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Posted By: Nat1
Date Posted: 05 May 2025 at 18:29
fatbear wrote:
It shouldn't be too hard to arrange for Caldy 2nds to travel with the firsts to play Chinnor Falcons ( and vice versa ). Chinnor should be able to arrange their Raging Bull Fixtures to have two clear dates to play Caldy, if there is a will ! |
...there is a way! There you go, easily done and x2 more competetive fixtures for both clubs for next season, who has to contact who to make it happen? They act as good curtain raisers and it get supporters into the ground early for 12.30pm KO before the 1 XV at 3pm - more bar sales all round too. It is win win.
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