Worcester Head Coach
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Topic: Worcester Head Coach
Posted By: Bearblue
Subject: Worcester Head Coach
Date Posted: 12 May 2025 at 20:02
| I see they are due to name the head coach this week. Toby Booth was mentioned, there was a glint in Paul Turners eye when I wished him good luck for the future on Saturday. |
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Posted By: Rothman2
Date Posted: 12 May 2025 at 20:59
| I heard it is Matt Everard. |
Posted By: TeflonTed
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 10:18
Confirmed this morning by email to subscribers, then public shortly afterwards. ------------- TeflonTed, 2 miles from Sixways |
Rothman2 wrote:Posted By: Paul10
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 10:28
Turner is going back to Newport I think.
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Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 11:12
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Worcester Warriors have named former Leicester Tigers defence coach Matt Everard as their new head coach. Warriors are set to https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/c62gjv9rg29o" rel="nofollow - return to professional rugby union next season in the Championship, two-and-a-half years after going into administration. The 34-year-old former Leicester and Wasps back-rower began coaching with Wasps after retirement in 2017. He returned to Welford Road initially as a senior academy coach for the 2022-23 season before moving into the role of defence coach in December 2022. He https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/articles/cpql0w28w5vo" rel="nofollow - was stood down from that post in February . Worcester were suspended from all competitions in September 2022 and https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63038335" rel="nofollow - put into administration over unpaid tax, but passed an RFU-led tender process to enter the expanded second tier next season. Everard said the decision to take the job was a "no brainer". "What we're doing is one of a kind really, building from scratch with a clean slate," he told BBC Radio Hereford & Worcester. Everard said the club would put together a squad of 30-40 players involving a "good blend" of big-game experience and "familiar faces" with youthful energy, adding that he had been "inundated" with players and agents reaching out. Announcements on player signings should begin "this week", he said. |
Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 11:13
| Note the penultimate paragraph. |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 11:47
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If an agent was not sending resumes, they are not doing their job. There are 35 new full-time positions to fill. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: JZSmith
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 12:12
| Anyone who signs a contract with Worcester Defaulters can't complain if future wages aren't paid. It's part of their "proud tradition". |
Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 12:22
Quite. Every pro and semi-pro club will have been bombarded by now. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Se7en
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 13:42
Where does it say that it is part of their "proud tradition"?
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Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 14:32
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Well Gloucester just had a massive clear out, and Cardiff hardly secure!!!!! ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: Bearblue
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 14:59
| Rumours circulating around Bedford about names on their way to Worcester. |
Posted By: Carlton Lad
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 15:10
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Happens every season, I’m sure Rayer has some options. We lose some and sign some.
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Posted By: Jester10
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 16:27
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I do wonder if they'll actually be ready for the 25/26 season ------------- Enjoying life! |
Posted By: Runitback
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 16:29
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They will but they still have to start paying debts off, and if Falcons fold do they get bounced up again??? ------------- Run with it |
Posted By: Bearblue
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 17:38
| In Mikey Rayer we trust. |
Posted By: titans.chris
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 17:46
| Heck of a lot of work to do, particularly to be competitive in a tough league! |
Posted By: Carlton Lad
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 17:47
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Posted By: Jester10
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 19:26
If that happened would another club from Nat 1 get promoted to replace the interlopers? ------------- Enjoying life! |
Posted By: Robb
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 19:52
Since when does a new club have a proud tradition anyway?
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 13 May 2025 at 19:58
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It depends on when they fold. The National and lower Leagues are locked in place earlier than the top two. Without looking it up, I think the deadline is in August. So, when Jersey withdrew, it was September, and too late to rearrange leagues - so the Championship went ahead with 11. But, had they been a Premiership side going bust, even in September, theoretically a Championship side should have been promoted. But as they need to have passed a ground audit, they would not be. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: JZSmith
Date Posted: 14 May 2025 at 12:20
I believe when you were trolling everybody a while back I said it wasn't worth engaging with you and my view hasn't changed.
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Posted By: JZSmith
Date Posted: 14 May 2025 at 12:26
Since the "new" club used its proud tradition as a part of buying its way into the Championship! (But I realise it was a rhetorical question
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Posted By: Mark W-J
Date Posted: 14 May 2025 at 18:55
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One thing that is really bugging me at the moment is the number of Worcester fans insisting that the reason they've been readmitted to the Champ is because they have paid off their creditors, whereas other clubs - most notably Richmond, Scottish and Welsh - started at the bottom because they all refused to take responsibility and simply defaulted on their debts. Apparently - according to the Worcester fans - this rule has always been in place, although none of them seem to be able to explain a) how long you have to pay your debts and then get readmitted (24 months in their case) and b) the mechanism for parachuting a team into the league structure without the knock-on effect of forcibly relegating an extra club at each level of the pyramid to make way for them. As far as I'm aware - and I could be wrong - no team has ever dropped out of the league system and been allowed to rejoin higher than County league level. It doesn't just apply to the clubs suffering financial difficulties - a few years ago Haywards Heath dropped out of our league on safety grounds just before the season started having had all of their front row players poached by a local rival, but they still got dropped to the Sussex leagues. Am I going mad? Is anyone else aware of this loophole? As far as I'm aware - and again, I could be wrong - Worcester are only back in the Champ because they were invited (as were every club outside the top two tiers) to apply for membership of the new league. But they couldn't have simply waltzed back in uninvited after two years away by virtue of paying off their debts, as many of their fans are adamant is the case, could they?
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Posted By: Bluesman11
Date Posted: 14 May 2025 at 19:39
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I’m also not sure they have actually paid all the debts off yet, but have made a commitment to paying off all their remaining debts over a phased period. That was how it was reported in various news outlets. Not sure what happens if they default on those payments… ------------- Championship Prediction League Winner 11/12 |
Posted By: ROLLO
Date Posted: 14 May 2025 at 20:39
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Worcester are paying rugby creditors as defined by the RFU , and I am sure that those recieving the payments will be if not happy , then less sad. The world has changed, an invitation was made for clubs to enter the new structure and Wuss were accepted after some very strict investigation. In the last round the total gates for all Championship games was just over 8K. If you look at Sixways Stadium and its potential why would rugby not want a further 4 or 5K added to that number? Or indeed the employment opportunities for players ,coaches and backroom staff , plus hostpitality and administration. With this infrastructure is there a Championship side that is equal to it ?
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Posted By: FHLH
Date Posted: 14 May 2025 at 21:04
Not sure of the relevance of this ------------- "My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts." |
Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 14 May 2025 at 21:15
You completely miss the point. I know I’m an old Cornish fossil but from where I sit, a “club” has been created which promises to pay off some debts over an unclear period; pontificating that the rest of us should be grateful for your munificence is frankly insulting.
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 14 May 2025 at 22:06
8k is not great is it? However, had Bedford and Cov been at home the numbers would be quite a bit higher, with the two clubs getting a total of between six and ten thousand (depending on the opposition) between them. And I can assure you that Cov would be pulling in close to 5k a week or more in the unlikely event that they were smashing the league. All totally irrelevant to the whole argument though, like the 8k figure accrued by clubs who are disgracefully unsupported or promoted by their own feeble governing body. ------------- Our Club |
Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 09:20
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4,000 fans at home does not help anyone other than Worcester. However, if they bring 500 to every away game - then they would be very welcome. Bring 1,000 and treasurers would be ecstatic. Obviously Bedford could struggle to squeeze in that many given they would sell out the ground to hardcore Blues fans - that is a different problem. Pirates might have a similar problem - but most other clubs have spare capacity. The problem is getting the message out that there is high quality sport to watch - when all the coverage is eaten by Soccer and the Premiership Clubs. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 09:42
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When Wuss were in the Championship they never brought anywhere near 500 to Penzance. Bristol were the only relegated side to bring significant support.
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Posted By: Camquin
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 10:51
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I am always impressed with the travelling support Cornish sides - the Pirates and before that Redruth when we played them - bring with them. Should we ever play Redruth again - I would point out that the new changing rooms have locks. ------------- Sweeney Delenda Est |
Posted By: MarkyMark
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 14:41
| I feel sorry for Worcester fans. The world knows a stitch up when it sees one and the earth has been moved to allow them to be fast tracked back to this level. The rhetoric from the very beginning has been about when they get back not how. I think what sticks in the craw is the time between going bust and now. Other teams to continue have had to put a team out the next season to carry on and had to start lower. This is setting a precedent, that you can go bust, bide your time and let others fail to leave you a space. Previous situations have been ignored, other clubs falling by the wayside forgotten but lets not kid ourselves this is an inside job. And every Worcester fan justification written I'm sure in good faith and excitement has been and will always be shot down in flames (likened to the Wimbledon/Milton Keynes Don's). There's so many inconsistencies around repayments.... have they, will they.... how much, I hope the players and staff going there will be OK but they are here to stay, I would think for one season only |
Posted By: TeflonTed
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 15:21
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I think it’s worth trying to simplify this for anyone who hasn’t been following the saga. As far as I’m aware, no Worcester supporter has ever claimed that we’re paying off all creditors. We have agreed, as demanded by RFU, to pay off “rugby creditors” a concept created by the RFU which has absolutely no meaning in law whatsoever. The new owners have agreed to fund this, if you want to play in an RFU league you have to follow RFU rules. The payments to RC’s are scheduled with the RFU’s agreement, and I don’t expect that schedule to be made public. The list of ALL creditors was published by Administrators as required by law, and one can read this and have a decent guess about those within it who might be RC’s. Remember these creditors were left unpaid by the previous long departed useless owners. The new owners could easily have decided not to pay them, and then we would have started from the bottom. As often when businesses go bust, unsecured creditors will get nothing. As a lifelong rugby supporter I understand exactly why some are outraged that Wuss are not starting from the bottom, and quote other failed clubs to support that outrage. But the simple fact is that no previous collapsed club has ever paid anyone anything, including Cov, so the situation is unique, and comes about only because the RFU invented Rugby Creditors, and because Wuss infrastructure attracted new money from new owners who are willing and able to comply with the RFU’s scheme. Don’t take it out on the supporters please. A lot of us are local, know unsecured creditors, and believe me we’re not crowing about how it has all worked out. ------------- TeflonTed, 2 miles from Sixways |
Posted By: cheshire exile
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 15:42
| That’s entirely balanced and reasonable. What is disappointing is one or two other “supporters “ suggesting we should all be grateful because you’re back, given that we’re small town hicks without your facilities and alleged serried ranks of fans coming to boost our local economies. |
Posted By: ROLLO
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 16:34
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Cheshire Exile if you are refereing to my post then I apologise if you have taken it the way you have, that was not my intention espcially as I am a new poster to this site. To be clear I am not expecting anyone to be grateful for the reamurgence of Warriors. What I would hope is that in seeking to grow the game of rugby union , which has been much debated , there would be an acceptance that we will be a positive help in this quest. We will I trust approach the league with a humbleness of spirit, seeking to play attractive rugby that supporters will want to watch. I would hope that visisting supporters will like the facilites that Sixways brings, that you will recieve a warm welcome and make new or renew rugby friendships. Likewise I hope that when we vsisit that the same will happen and that you can benefit from any extra revenue. I don't apaolgise for thinking that it is a good thing that folk who thought they would get nothing are to be paid , or that we will be offereing employment to some who would not have any or would be in a field not of their first sporting choice , this plus other employment opportunities is a big tick in my book. Lastly we do not expect to walk the league, I along with many of my fellow supporters will be happy with a year or two of consoldiation. We will I hope treat defeat with graciousness and victory with magnanimity. I trust that clarifies things.
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Posted By: TeflonTed
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 16:57
Thank you. I hope I haven’t added to any smugness that we have a premier standard stadium and infrastructure, it was clearly a factor in attracting our new owners. I’ve enjoyed a recent visit to your place, proper stadium and a proper welcome. We will reciprocate in similar manner. I do have on file the ludicrous statement by covkid1953 insisting that Wuss’s presence in T2 won’t increase spectator numbers. I also have his equally ludicrous previous statement that HMRC have “first dibs” on all remains assets. I’m not expecting an apology for either piece of nonsense. ------------- TeflonTed, 2 miles from Sixways |
Posted By: Exiled_Scots
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 19:43
I hate to suck the wind out of your sails, but the term “rugby creditors” is not something new or even relatively new. It’s been in the RFU regulations for over a decade. So let’s not all be deflected with this concept that Worcester are using something that is all very recent or new. What other defaulter clubs never had, even if they had agreed to pay off their “rugby creditors” was a free entry pass into Tier 2. It’s no wonder there is so much animosity directed towards Worcester as the RFU have just changed the rules to “resurrect” one on the Cartel clubs to make up the numbers in the failing Premiership, which cannot survive with only 11 teams. ------------- Watch Out - The Scottish Phoenix Club is on the Up!! Seven down one to go |
Posted By: MarkyMark
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 21:39
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Well summed up ES. I’m sure the supporters of all clubs will thaw once you taken on most of their better players and left them worse off
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Posted By: Kimbo
Date Posted: 15 May 2025 at 21:49
Well, you WILL keep engaging with him. ------------- Our Club |