Alun Wyn Jones

Sid James wrote:

I see Marler will not miss a match due to the Lockdown.

I thought he was sulking and didn't want to play anymore anyway.... the big girl's blouse...

Edited by Dobber - 25 Apr 2020 at 22:12

I see Marler will not miss a match due to the Lockdown.

All Knwoing All Seeing

WINGER14 wrote:

I couldn't understand what all the Fuss was about, I've paid up to £50 at our local S+M parlour for similar attension. Maybe Joe would be cheaper. Ouch

Cheaper but not as good looking, maybe!!!!

stonehousealbion wrote:

3. Close on 15 years ago, there was a player in Oz disciplined for serially inserting his finger where the sun don't shine during rucks. That's the far end of the spectrum, but everyone should be protected from that, right?

John Hopoate... rugby league player with the odd 'stiff index finger' tackle technique. Reputation as the most suspended player of the modern era. Even merits an entry on his wiki page

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"During a 2001 clash with the North Queensland Cowboys, Hopoate, in an attempt to unsettle several of his opponents, inserted his finger in three players' anuses, the first occurring during the seventh minute of play. At the conclusion of the match the matter was immediately referred to the rugby league judiciary on 28 March. Hopoate was suspended for 12 weeks for what one Commissioner referred to as "disgusting, violent, offensive behaviour".

Hopoate claimed in front of the panel of judges that he was simply attempting to give all three players wedgie with his fingers, denying he had done anything wrong and that he was "a great believer in what happens on the field should stay there".

The three victims in the case all disagreed with the reasoning put forward by Hopoate and his team. Jones stated, "It wasn't a wedgie. That's when your pants are pulled up your hazelnut. I think I know the difference between a wedgie and someone sticking their finger up my bum", while Bowman stated that he was "disgusted" and "couldn't believe it". Hopoate was officially found guilty of 'unsportsmanlike interference'.

Edited by Dobber - 27 Mar 2020 at 18:36

Load of grey areas here and the usual range of under/over-reaction. (Nowt wrong wi' that!)

1. I believe many womens' clubs have an informal protocol for declaring your sexual orientation on joining to contextualise certain types of physical contact. Surely three bum pinches in one game by a single player merits some kind of a word being had at some kind of level.

2. The sanctity of the male genitalia in sport is not absolute; witness the controlled ribaldry of pundits when some unfortunate gets struck in the lower abdominal area during a test match.

3. Close on 15 years ago, there was a player in Oz disciplined for serially inserting his finger where the sun don't shine during rucks. That's the far end of the spectrum, but everyone should be protected from that, right?

4. The commonplace "bum pat", is that a modern (ie professional) era thing? Would it have earned you a bunch of fives in the tongue cupboard in days gone by?

You have to wonder whether Marler ened up thinking, "If I got 10 weeks for a fondle, maybe I should have squeeezed a bit harder..."

Come cheer up, my lads - 'tis to glory we steer!

Interesting article in BBC News re: Grabbing of genitals in rugby.

By interesting, I mean it was good to hear opinion and views from other rugby players. There are also a couple of ludicrous tweets from over reactive individuals who are probably hoarding toilet rolls and pasta.

We had another chat about this in our rugby club yesterday. All there agreed that Marler did not 'grab' AWJ's genitals and the 10 week ban is very harsh.

We agreed that this is what happens when the media get hold of something and our 'powers that be' over react.

We all agreed that Marler had been silly and that a suitable punishment would be Marler donating his match fee to Testicular Cancer research.

I call that common sense from some people who understand our game.

All Knwoing All Seeing

I think AWJ has lost all credibility within the game, he’s turned on a teammate doing nothing more than having a joke!

Rucks and mauls may bust my balls, but whips and chains excite me!!

There's a picture floating about of Marler receiving a nipple tweak at the same time as his fondle. Had he been identifying as female the perpetrator would have hit a 10 week ban also.

Edited by FHLH - 13 Mar 2020 at 14:17

"My father told me big men fall just as quick as little ones, if you put a sword through their hearts."

I think the issue is trying to explain to anyone why Marler receives a 10 week ban for an action with no malice attached whilst the French prop, who's action could have blinded/broke the eye socket of the Scots player, receives a 3 week ban. Anyone out there explain that to me pls?

I think that AWJ handled this matter perfectly. Cannot understand how anyone thinks otherwise